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Yeah, :P I'm them: small c catholic, small l liberal a bit too.

Definitely not an apparatchik lower or upper case! Is there such a thing as a lower case Marxist?

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I like that..  LOL! I swear stearn, I've had to look up the definition of more words when chatting with you & tegeus over the last couple of weeks, than the last couple of years! :huh: That's okay, whatever doesn't kill me makes me smarter...or something like that.. :)

 

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:P Whatever doesn't kill this poor old HDD makes it what? Certainly not bloat resistant.

Has anyone done a disk cleanup of previous Windows after the 1709 update? Here that amounted to well over 35 GB. 35GB!!!!! No wonder the system has been running somewhat sluggishly since the update.

This raises the hairy question of dedicated MS servers for backup & restore. Something like this but the prices! Makes no sense periodically shunting yottabytes of the same data through the internet- thus the focus would be on a better way to preserve the few user settings these updates actually respect. Thus for system restore, core files of a previous OS are retrieved from an internet server, local settings & files are retrieved from a local source.

This would work providing there is no major blunder in the shipped update so that everyone is not rushing to D/L the restore package:- our friend Murphy is forever waiting in the wings for that eventuality!

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CCleaner & SpinRite help keep my old HDD's in decent shape. At least as long as Avast doesn't let CCleaner get hacked... Oh wait.. :P

Yeah, I do a clean up after every update. It's pretty amazing the crap that gets stored. I once even compressed Windows.old and sent it off as a just-in-case backup. After a while I saw the foolishness in that & just delete it. I'm getting more than a little annoyed that they keep reinstalling "system applications" I've very intentionally uninstalled, and reverted various settings to how THEY want them. How on Earth can 3D Objects & Paint3D be considered a necessary "system application"?

LOL, I've learned not to mess with Old Man Murphy!

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Those bad penny apps I just keep them installed :

Reason .. Most of them will auto appear in Settings / Privacy / Location | Camera | Microphone | Contacts etc etc, when they auto re-install.

Leave them installed and your preferences in Privacy settings of having them not gathering data about you, and uploading it to MS via the OneDrive, remains in force.

Uninstall them and they will again appear in those settings with default On (At least they have done once in the past for me, never uninstalled them since and keep them set to off for data gathering)

You're right they have nothing to do with the system, but this is why Win 10 was initially free :

As they say "you have become the product", imagine the behaviour science applied in analyzing all your data that MS has access to now, assuming most people will never touch privacy settings and use all the default programs including Edge and Cortana, People / Photos / Contacts etc, the amount of meta data scraping too from just the information held in a photo these days. Thats also why OneDrive is not made easy to turn off / get rid of, its crucial to all the data gathering stored in MS Cloud. Who else has access to all that ?.

Anyway, this is a bit of a leap from discussing Paint3D, but I do believe Win 10 is all about marketing and advertising, and being a data hoover. Just switch off what you can without uninstalling because if its important to the data gathering machine it will get re-installed.

Notice how you cant get the old Windows Picture and Fax Viewer back easily?, its still part of a .dll, but Win 10 has buried its registry settings, and gets rid of them again after any major update because they want you using Photo instead. https://www.howtogeek.com/225844/how-to-make-windows-photo-viewer-your-default-image-viewer-on-windows-10/

The old registry tweak to add "Copy to .." and "Move to .." back into the right click context menu also gets removed by major updates to windows 10, not entirely sure why but its a PITA. It still works fine on Win 10 https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows/add-copy-to-move-to-to-the-windows-explorer-right-click-menu/

On the subject of Clouds - I prefer my external USB HD, doesnt cost bandwidth and so long as I use it once every couple of month to do backups of documents / bookmarks / emails .. Having a trashed HD is not something I worry about.

Thunderbird and all my email accounts get backed up with MozBackup (it still works for the latest version of Thunderbird), probably the most important backup file out of all of them.

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That's good to know, thanks! I will just let them install. It's too much trouble to keep adjusting the settings, as you said, and I don't want to forget. I wonder if they take into consideration that all the data they hoover are from the lazy and/or non-tech savvy, and that those who are concerned about privacy aren't getting their data gathered. Basically they're not getting the whole picture. It probably doesn't matter as they're still able to sell that info or use it to target those same people as consumers.

This is what I've done with Cortana: https://www.askvg.com/windows-10-tip-remove-cortana-microsoft-edge-contact-support-and-feedback-apps/

Plus I've completely disabled OneDrive. Lots of great info on that site, if you haven't run across it before. HowToGeek's site annoys me but I'll take a look at those links, thanks for providing them. :)

I too use an external HDD for dedicated backup, but also use a cloud service with a private encryption key. Just switched to IDrive after CrashPlan effed their home users. Haven't had a chance to assess them very well yet, but so far I've been pleased. Managed to finagle a deal for 5TB, unlimited computers @ $10/year. :D

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Heads up for anyone getting the 1803 (April Update) early like I got drafted into, check your speaker configs when it's done. Mine was reset to an invalid one and everything but ambient sound and music in Skyrim was mute.

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Oh godz, this is what was previously known as the Windows 10 Spring Creators update, now rebadged as Windows 10 April 2018 .. Bit of a mixed bag from what I have seen about it so far, some of it is going to be confusing for the average user, especially the new folder admin restrictions.

I'm kind of looking forward to it sometime this week, but also kind of wishing it wasn't going to happen :). Too many complicated layers of issues in the last several months about to be overwritten and hopefully preserve all previous jumping through hoops on different machines in our family to enable Meltdown and Spectre mitigations.

No doubt the OS will have something to say about my graphics drivers and sound drivers and kicking CCleaner into touch again demanding the most recent updates (which have already been installed prior to the OS upgrade .. but who am I).

The update frequency on Win 10 is starting to feel like its a bit too much and unecessary, like using Fedora beta bleeding edge Linux instead of Mint stable Linux

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A lot of customization replaced by what MS thinks I need. No easy roll back to 1709. Half a dozen machines so far and it appears that past USB problems are fixed.

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I get a WMI error often in Windows 7. Its never seemed to cause issues for me. It might be one of those things that pop up after customizing stuff in Services. Next time I am on my Windows 10 hardrive which has the new Spring update, I'll take a look in my Event Viewer to see if any wierd BITs/WMI errors are there.

I did notice that the new Spring Update rebuilds the search index from scratch and also comes with a new .NET Framework version 4.7.2. If theres alot of activity after the install, its coming from rebuilding the index and compiling .NET. I let it sit for like an hour and it was all done by the time I got back to it.

 

Edit: No WMI errors for me in my Event Viewer on 1803.

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Just a heads up, if you have disabled the "Touch Keyboard and Handwriting Panel Service" in services.msc it is enabled by default again after you update to build 1803. This service can cause crashes for some people in SSE, and unless you actually have a touchpad there is no reason for it to be enabled.

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On 5/15/2018 at 12:39 PM, drizzan said:

Just a heads up, if you have disabled the "Touch Keyboard and Handwriting Panel Service" in services.msc it is enabled by default again after you update to build 1803. This service can cause crashes for some people in SSE, and unless you actually have a touchpad there is no reason for it to be enabled.

.. So that could be my problem recently and maybe not the issue with Aers SSE Engine fixes :facepalm:

I will never have a need for it so its getting disabled and stopped running. Thanks.

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