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Fixes Recommended in Addition to the USSEP

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Fixes Recommended in Addition to the USSEP

Achievements Mods Enabler - Not a bug fix per se, but since there are plenty of people who love their achievements, this exists to make sure they can still get them while playing with mods installed.

SkyUI - A PC-centric reworking of the major components of the game interface. Yes, we do in fact consider this to be within the realm of bug fixing because the vanilla PC interface is simply not designed with actual PCs in mind. For obvious reasons, it's not something that would ever become part of the USSEP. Since SkyUI is pretty much ubiquitous, the USSEP defers all UI related fixes to them, and there are plenty of legit fixes included in SkyUI.

Flora Respawn Fix - This is a clever workaround for the bug introduced in Patch 1.3 where most flora objects in the game won't respawn no matter how long you wait for them. Requires unsupported TREE record edits and so is not suitable for inclusion in the USSEP.

Bring Out Your Dead - Extends the vanilla graveyard support to all vanilla NPCs who should have had one. Was originally planned to become part of UKSP 1.1 but had been overruled due to the requirement to place extra grave containers for those NPCs who didn't have one yet.

Better Dialogue Controls - Fixes a minor but annoying bug with being able to select the proper dialogue options with the keyboard and/or mouse. Alters the UI, which is one area we do not cover to avoid conflicts that would not be easy to resolve. Complements SkyUI as this is not an included feature there.

Better MessageBox Controls - Fixes another minor but also equally annoying bug with clicking on text in a message box. Also not suitable due to editing UI files. Complements SkyUI as this is not an included feature there.

Unofficial Skyrim Survival Patch - Corrects overlaps between the Survival Mode content from the Creation Club and the USSEP so that both will work together properly.

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There's another nice one released recently, not really a fix, but if the Creation Club daily message / advertisement or whatever you wish to call it annoys the heck out of you :

No More Creation Club News

Its just a replacement .swf file similar to "Better Dialogue Controls" and "Better Message Box Controls", so easy to implement and no bad side effects, nor any conflicts I dont think ( the file installed is Data \ Interface \ startmenu.swf )

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@alt3rn1ty : this mod just brings back the main menu from the previous official update (md5 are the same) which means no access to CC at all. Check my mod ' no more creation club news' that still allows CC access and only removes the spam box.

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Either way, mods of this nature are not something we're going to add to the OP list since they aren't bugs and IMO are driven more out of anti-CC hate than being useful. Especially since they have a non-zero chance of disrupting the game's main menu.

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I personally thought of it as just an annoying addition to the games menus, rather than any cc hate - I do not have anything against the CC idea as a whole, just some of the implementation is annoying and in your face in a game we bought which did not originally have such mechanisms. Its like turning the game into a virus, to implant whatever bethesda wants, and not what we bought into.

An anti-thesis to the reason given for the listed Achievements mods enabler which is similarly not a bug fix but included because people love their achievements, like I love a game menu to be purely about the game and not introducing an attractor for potential customers within the game itself.

You are rather defensive with me recently and I do not understand why, the word petty being used recently in regards to the mention of Bethesda dumping a bunch of files on my hard drive which was not necessary for the game to run, I think you are being too defensive of bethesda so as not to ruin any possible chances you may get in terms of opportunities, hmm?, does that warrant attacking peoples personal opinions of what is right for a company to do with our own property?.

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38 minutes ago, Nico coiN said:

@alt3rn1ty : this mod just brings back the main menu from the previous official update (md5 are the same) which means no access to CC at all. Check my mod ' no more creation club news' that still allows CC access and only removes the spam box.

Thank you nico, will look it up, that does sound like a better way of doing it (I do not have any way of investigating what resides inside .swf files, so really have no clue about the scope of what they do)

 

Edit : Found it https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12679/?

Changed the link in the previous post to point at that one instead

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If you're just going to turn this thread into a series of unwarranted personal attacks I'll just forget it and delete the whole thing instead.

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5 hours ago, Arthmoor said:

If you're just going to turn this thread into a series of unwarranted personal attacks I'll just forget it and delete the whole thing instead.

Please don't do that.

6 hours ago, alt3rn1ty said:

I personally thought of it as just an annoying addition to the games menus, rather than any cc hate - I do not have anything against the CC idea as a whole, just some of the implementation is annoying and in your face in a game we bought which did not originally have such mechanisms. Its like turning the game into a virus, to implant whatever bethesda wants, and not what we bought into.

An anti-thesis to the reason given for the listed Achievements mods enabler which is similarly not a bug fix but included because people love their achievements, like I love a game menu to be purely about the game and not introducing an attractor for potential customers within the game itself.

You are rather defensive with me recently and I do not understand why, the word petty being used recently in regards to the mention of Bethesda dumping a bunch of files on my hard drive which was not necessary for the game to run, I think you are being too defensive of bethesda so as not to ruin any possible chances you may get in terms of opportunities, hmm?, does that warrant attacking peoples personal opinions of what is right for a company to do with our own property?.

The implementation of anything major new after years of nothing has to be done well. Modders, fans and followers and the like all have sensitivities, and any bumbles won't go down well at all.

Please play nice, this thread is for fixes - What you suggest sounds good- and worthy of another thread especially if it is an annoyance,- but doesn't belong here really. Take care.

 

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Indeed, and I acknowledge the achievement thing is a stretch, but it fits the definition of a fix to some degree and does no damage to things in return. The menu disabling thing is not a fix for any sort of problem though and wasn't even created in the spirit of the community in general. It was created as a divisive instrument of hate, in much the same way troll mods against the system in 2015 were made.

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I'm frequently frustrated how unsorted some things are in containers. Items such as ingots and ingredients get sorted alphabetically. I wish it could be the same for weapons and apparel.

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On 2017-10-06 at 12:39 AM, Arthmoor said:

Either way, mods of this nature are not something we're going to add to the OP list since they aren't bugs and IMO are driven more out of anti-CC hate than being useful. Especially since they have a non-zero chance of disrupting the game's main menu.

I have to agree with this.  Sure, I too find the Creation News text at the top to the right in the in-game menu somewhat irritating, but without it who would know when there is a free CC mod to grab which happen to me the other day. :)

Dwarven Armored Mudgrab

 

I dunno whether this mod, I consider that mod not to be a bug fixing mod instead it's a mod based on personal opinion, is recommended to use in addition to USSEP or not.

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No, I wouldn't post that one on the list either since it mentions some things I'm pretty sure we already fixed, and "fixes" other things that aren't actually bugs.

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2 hours ago, Arthmoor said:

No, I wouldn't post that one on the list either since it mentions some things I'm pretty sure we already fixed, and "fixes" other things that aren't actually bugs.

That's what I thought too, hence for asking here.

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